it is a warming and the fact that there is may snow storms doesn't change the science. >> adam, this wasn't you, but i can remember having an environmentalist on this show when it was warm and when it got warmer and said this is going to be the thing. you might as welcome in your bermuda shorts next winter and all of a sudden, that didn't happen. but they were wrong. >> they can add -- they can't admit they're wrong, that's all i'm saying. >> i would say i'm not one of those environmentalists, obviously. i think we need to be very careful to avoid single data points like the weather in may of 2013 or whatever the weather was when you were having that conversation. >> when it gets warm, that's when we use global warm. whatever term suits you, i like weather challenged than fact. i'm just saying, you can call it anything you want, but maybe they're just wrong. >> well, it is, in fact, warming and so i don't know -- i don't oppose fracking. i don't think forcing people to drive electric cars is the solution. but we do need a solution to global warming 'cause that's a fact. >> we're show